MMG Spa 2007 v1.0 Release Options

[dibbdroid]

This debate is out of control now.
It's guys like you who are flaming it up. If you'd been around the MMG forums over the last year, you'll know it's guys like me (and many others) who have been consistently praising MMG and their excellent work. That doesn't mean that everything has to be perfect, and this track just isn't and it's great to see that Steve is working on the fences, windows, etc.
It's you who is using language like 'ass' 'firing squad' 'angry mob' 'bayonet', etc. etc. No-one else is.
I am looking forward to the new version from Steve.

The debate is not out of control, if you read the full thread you may get the gist.

I have seen your writings across the forums over the last years and noted your support of MMG.

If you read my post above you will see it is not a dig at you personally but an observation regarding some authors who have a tendancy to shoot from the hip and written a little tongue in cheek as "firing squad, angry mob, bayonet the survivors" is a joke from the 80's/90's regarding old fashioned TQM and Quality Assurance departments.

[imacken]

The debate is not out of control, if you read the full thread you may get the gist.

Eh, like I haven't read the thread???
Sorry, but I have to disagree, the debate was becoming very silly in the way that only internet forum debates can.
Let's hope that has all stopped now and we can work together to make Spa better.

[dibbdroid]

Eh, like I haven't read the thread???

The second line would have been satisfactory enough, which is my point entirely about jottings which insinuate some sort of hierarchy and one-up-man-ship, I didn't come on here to be judged or judge you but leave off with the personal jibes and all will be fine.

[imacken]

The second line would have been satisfactory enough, which is my point entirely about jottings which insinuate some sort of hierarchy and one-up-man-ship, I didn't come on here to be judged or judge you but leave off with the personal jibes and all will be fine.

What on earth are you talking about? 'Judging', 'personal jibes'? I for one don't even think about judging other people, and I certainly haven't made any 'personal jibes', but you suggesting that I read the thread that I have contributed 7 or 8 posts to, now that is verging on a 'personal jibe', or, at least, patronisation.
Still, I'm now indulging in the very childish behaviour that comes from these 'discussions' that I hate, so perhaps I'll just go and have another beer!

[Steve B]

Hi Guys,

Things are being worked out so PLEASE let's all get along

I want to thank all of you for all your feedback good and bad this is what I need to hear.

I hope that the next release will be a lot better and please everyone ( I hope )

I want to appollogize for the mistakes but I can honestly say that I had tested the track out so many times before sending it off to Petros
and those problems weren't there.
Having said that last night I went and tested the track again and low and behold they were there...go figure, I don't know why or how things got changed maybe it is the
new nvidia driver I installed but I was quite embarressed to say the least and things that were said can't be taken back but what I want to do is openly appollogize to ALL of you.

I do however stand by what I said about what I see on my screen isn't what everyone else does because we all run different settings so that is why your honest valuation of the track is very improtant.

So keep the feedback comming the only thing I ask is please choose your words wisely because the way things are read an be determined by what kind of day we might be having...LOL and it can make things a lot clearer and situations like this can be a thing of the past.

CHEERS TO ALL and again THANK YOU.

Steve B

[imacken]

Excellent post Steve. It is a much better person who is prepared to stand up and admit his mistakes, than the one that doesn't!
I'm sure we are all looking forward to the new version. This v1 Spa just wasn't up to your usual high standards.
Thanks.

[Maurice]

Everyone had its say?

Seriously, feedback is okay but it went to a far to personal level. Ofcourse nothing is perfect but bashing isn't going to get us anywhere, Philip's tracks weren't perfect and neither are Steve's(actually no-one or nothing is perfect). In either case it doesnt make to much difference, MMG could have choosen to delay the track to get everything perfect in the first release but that would have other people complaining.

Ofcourse community feedback is hugely appreciated as long as it's in a constructive way, so if someone feels that they have anything to add on the things already said about the track itself feel free to open up another topic.

But for now this topic is closed